You are a bald faced liar.
She's talking about Cramer there, and then she goes onto explain why she said that.
Here is an excerpt from her conversation with Jossi at Wikipedia about edits on Joe Cafasso (see here):
I am of two minds about whether to comment here, since I am not a neutral observer. It is notable and fairly well established that Cafasso and Jack Idema have a feud going.
A feud? The grab from the left is from Kathryn Cramer dot Com. from the sidebar on the right. Click here, and it opens up. Lol…a “feud”; Is that what you call it? The Colonel That Wasn’t stole your computer, lied about who he is, lied about his health, disappeared and turned up in Mississippi and did it to other people, and you put up a ‘call for information’ but it’s Idema and Cafasso that are having a feud? Give me a break.
I would say that the evidence tells me that YOU and Cafasso have a feud going, lol…why are you looking for him, again? Wasn’t it because he lied to you? Doesn’t he lie to everyone? Doesn’t Cafasso ‘have a feud going’ with the WORLD [when people stop believing him]???
Here are few pieces of evidence that can be cited: Idema is known to have co-written Robin Moore’s book The Hunt for Bin Laden (Idema even appers on the cover). (As I recall this is discussed in Robert Young Pelton’s Licensed to Kill.) The book contains an unfavorable discussion of Cafasso. Idema quotes from the book, using it as a reference on his official website ( Superpatriots.us) concerning Cafasso. HOWEVER, if you check the text of the passages Idema quotes, he has rewritten them to claim that Cafasso tried to get him killed. Also, Cafasso was a defendent in one of Idema’s lawsuits. The documents concerning the existence of the law suit are public record on the site of a Los Angeles court. Quotng from public record court docs would be a more appropriate way to document the feud than Caosblog.
Let’s check those passages, shall we? Let’s take a look at the book in question, but let’s also remember how idiotic this woman sounds. Remember, I’m not making up that Cafasso stole her computer, charged an expensive hotel bill on her credit card (which she apparently didn’t check) and that she claims he owes her 20 grand. These are indisputable facts admitted to by Ms. Cramer herself:
I am interested in receiving information concerning the life and activities of former Fox News Military & Counterterrorism Editor Joseph A. Cafasso aka Joe Cafasso, Jay Cafasso, Gerry Blackwood, Gerard Pal Blackwood, Jay Mosca, J. Mosca, James Mosca, Joseph Mosca, Jay Anthony, Tom Adams, and Jake Adams.
He stole my computer and owes me about twenty grand.
Of particular interest are:
* other known aliases
* information concerning debts & unpaid financial obligations
* incidents involving computer equipment or credit cards
* medical conditions
* employment history
* documentation such as photographs, videotapes, audiotapes
* transcripts or other documentation concerning public events he attended
* documents he presented
I’m sure the reason you’re ‘calling for information’ isn’t to ‘defame him’, lol…, right? It’s only anybody else who writes about the guy who is defaming Cafasso, according to you, which puts you in the only privileged position to write about him.
I’m not sure what Cafasso’s being a defendent in one of Idema’s lawsuits has to prove except that since he doesn’t have two pennies to pinch together and is hungry to dip his grubby hands into grants given to Christian ministries, I would imagine he’s pretty angry about that. He reacts very strongly when his lines of BS are no longer accepted or believed by people, we’ve seen that pretty clearly here at his Stuporpatriots blog.
Considering his psychiatric profile, it would seem as though he would be capable of just about anything in retaliation, wouldn’t it? At least to a reasonable person. This is also from your website:
At present he is apparently a very unhappy man, as Mendehall Ministries in Mendenhall, Mississippi (near Jackson) seems to have failed to appreciate his recent involvement in their finances as Director of Development. I’m told he feels very sorry for himself and claims the pressing need for surgery & a lawsuit.
There is so much evidence out there that demonstrates that Cafasso is a very dishonest person, but now, we’re supposed to set all that aside in the case of Jack Idema and listen to Psychos R US.; Cramer, and Cafasso; over the evidence:
Clearly this is another of the numerous examples of Cramer’s lies and defamation of me and Idema and frankly, I’m getting sick and tired of it showing up again and again. Back to the entry at Wikipedia:
Though, in general, I disagree with Jossi’s stance on blogs, Caosblog and its cousins (Tracking Cafasso etc.) are intentionally defamatory of Cafasso. While some of what they have to say about Cafasso is true and sourced, they co-mingle it defamatory nonsense with fact and like Idema they sometimes rewrite material that seems sourced.
Interesting, Kathryn. You mean like in the book “The Hunt For Bin Laden”, right here?
The quote is DIRECTLY OUT OF THE BOOK, you stupid b*** but if you have the first edition printing, which was rushed to press, you won’t see it. Subsequent versions, including the paperback and the MacMillan version, all have that quote EXACTLY AS QUOTED, and nobody at the Superpatriots website rewrote anything.
Where is the comingling of defamatory statements? I missed that. Just as in the case of the photo album she said I had of her son- that didn’t exist, just as in the case of claiming I was stalking her and her family, and just as in the case of Michael Teague, Mookie Spicoli and all the other examples I’ve talked about here, Kathryn Cramer is not only off-base, she is lying. Either that, or she’s as dumb as a rock, but either way, the results would be the same.
Here is a dingbat that is seriously drawing conclusions on the basis of lies out of Joe Cafasso’s rotting mouth. It was one thing when she didn’t know his identity. But it’s completely another thing now that she knows who he is. what he’s done to numerous people, and is still standing by it. This is amazingly stupid. And Cramer works as a ‘researcher’ for Wolfram Research?
The reason the quote was not complete in the first Random House editions was because the lawyers were confirming the authenticity of the actual taperecordings and matching Cafasso’s voice. They even got outside legal counsel opinions on it to make sure they were covered.
Cafasso lies, Kathryn. You’d think that you would have realized that by now, since he STOLE YOUR COMPUTER and charged a huge hotel bill on your American Express card under completely false pretenses. Cafasso raises hell over complete fabrications-just ask the people at Mendenhall Ministries in Mississippi. You’re fully aware of that, you swallowed the Gerry Blackwood with the patch over his eye story…lol - the “Beyond the Call” story, and numerous others, which don’t exactly paint this guy as a bastion of truth telling, yet for some reason you’re willing to believe he’s telling the truth about Idema.
With all that I’ve put up about Idema, you’d think that someone with even a small pea-brain would be able to figure out that if he was what Cafasso says he is, he would easily have been dead by now. But no, Cafasso is a liar about everything except Idema.
Lie in one, lie in them all.
I know it’s a lot to expect from Kathryn Cramer, but instead of listening to Joe Cafasso’s sob stories, she really ought to get her facts straight.
Kathryn Cramer has absolutely no business editing Wikipedia. Cramer should have been STOPPED from writing her own bio, her husband’s bio, putting up information on Idema, putting up information on Cafasso, and linking to herself. She should not be allowed to create accolades to herself out of thin air. Cramer is entertaining complete fantasies about her alleged literary prowess, which is little more than bad science fiction writing. She has a completely out-of-control imagination; not to mention, an amazing sense of hubris and inability to face reality. Someone with a fertile imagination who can’t discern between reality and fantasy needs some serious psychological help, in my amateur opinion.
But that is where she’s exactly like Joe Cafasso and the two of them completely deserve each other.
There is no greater satisfaction than looking at Cramer - wearing that ugly green bathrobe with mud on her face. That is a picture that I will remember for time immemorial.
Merriam-Webster’s Dictionary of Law - Cite This Source
Main Entry: de·fa·ma·tion
Pronunciation: “de-f&-’mA-sh&n
Function: noun
1 : communication to third parties of false statements about a person that injure the reputation of or deter others from associating with that person —see also LIBEL, SLANDER New York Times Company v. Sullivan in the IMPORTANT CASES section —compare DISPARAGEMENT, FALSE LIGHT, SLANDER OF TITLE
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